tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4008006782907969381.post2025389102045117860..comments2024-01-01T01:47:59.449+02:00Comments on Yaacov Lozowick's Ruminations: Killing Westerners in MosquesYaacovhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12835192312242961481noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4008006782907969381.post-45047443474021138772010-10-06T12:40:54.092+02:002010-10-06T12:40:54.092+02:00for once I agree with you a 100 %
as to the use ...for once I agree with you a 100 % <br /><br />as to the use of "Jewish settlers", aren't at least some of them Israelis? Labelling them Jewish settlers and nothing else when they are murdered associates them with all the derision normally written about settlers and thus IMHO creates the impression that they somehow brought it on themselves (the same was said/implied when I was young about women who got raped)<br /><br />The "settler" whose stories I am reading on this blog http://ruth33.wordpress.com/<br />somewhere told that he served in the IDF. I take that as an indicationg that he holds Israelis citizenship.<br /><br />SilkeAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4008006782907969381.post-10511260845856395912010-10-06T03:20:44.794+02:002010-10-06T03:20:44.794+02:00However, the news media in the U.S. did lead with ...However, the news media in the U.S. did lead with "A Connecticut man" in the example above, so as not to bring anything related to his Muslim identity into a story about the man's terrorist (oops...militant) activities.<br /><br />However, terms like "Jewish settler" or "Christian fundamentalist" are thrown around like epithets, even when the "Jewish settler" is a child murdered by Palestinian "militants" or "gunmen."4infidelsnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4008006782907969381.post-76142649258889324122010-10-06T03:16:13.111+02:002010-10-06T03:16:13.111+02:00The issue of how people are identified in news sto...The issue of how people are identified in news stories is interesting and a window into the bias of the editors.<br /><br />You would think whatever term is used would be the one most likely to differentiate the person or put their identity in context as it relates to the story.<br /><br />For example: when a former President of the United States dies..you wouldn't headline the story "California man dies at 89" or "Husband and Father remembered." You would include the name and focus on the fact that he was President.<br /><br />So when a Muslim Pakistani-born, naturalized American citizen, who was trained in Taliban camps in Pakistan, attempts to set off a bomb in New York City, you don't lead with, "A Connecticut man was arrested." That doesn't clarify anything for the reader; it's aim is to avoid or minimize the most pertinent facts about the man: Muslim, jihadist, trained by the Taliban, terrorism.<br /><br />So, yes perhaps they were German citizens. They were also sons, perhaps college graduates, students, husbands, "A Hamburg man," engineers, whatever. None of those identities is helpful in understanding why attacking them wasn't an act of war by the CIA against Germany, but the targeting of anti-Western jihadists who intended to kill Germans and other Europeans.4infidelsnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4008006782907969381.post-65401993267962902752010-10-06T02:11:26.259+02:002010-10-06T02:11:26.259+02:00The mosque thing is ridiculous.
Killing each oth...The mosque thing is ridiculous. <br /><br />Killing each other in mosques on Friday is clearly one of the preferred methods of Muslim on Muslim suicide bombers. The West - the real West, not Muslims who have taken on Western naturalization in order to better infiltrate Europe and the USA - has no reason to be holier than them.AKUSnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4008006782907969381.post-5630139379516190602010-10-05T20:59:45.322+02:002010-10-05T20:59:45.322+02:00I just remembered that there is a discussion about...I just remembered that there is a discussion about the order to kill Anwar al-Awlaki the Yemeni who is said to have "inspired" the undie-bomber and others. <br /><br />He happens to have an American citizenship and apparently no American may be killed without due process - that's at least how I understand what I read about it - and thus when Westerners are killed the tricky problem of whether it is permissible to do it to Americans also looms closer and maybe the NYT wanted to prick that nerve with its headline<br /><br />SilkeAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4008006782907969381.post-68693052936140957392010-10-05T20:46:43.973+02:002010-10-05T20:46:43.973+02:00from my battle of Falluja book I learned that they...from my battle of Falluja book I learned that they avoided or rather had orders to avoid, often at great cost to themselves, any damage to mosques. I think the rationale was that damage to a mosque might lead to uncontrollable eruptions.<br /><br />I read the story this morning at the BBC and noticed <br />the "balanced" wording <i>More than 150 people have died in drone strikes this year, including both militants and civilians.</i><br />http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-south-asia-11471185<br /><br />We recently had a much discussed bestseller with some IMHO very unsavoury parts which led to lots of discussions with Muslims on radio. All of them are undoubtedly well behaved decent muslim Germans and all go on and on and on about "our" fear and inability to accept the foreign. Surely so many pundits can't err? ;-(<br /><br />SilkeAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4008006782907969381.post-28687728337825313312010-10-05T20:31:24.906+02:002010-10-05T20:31:24.906+02:00OT but fitting in the context
this is quite often ...OT but fitting in the context<br />this is quite often a very interesting program - Daniel Pipes is one of the participants.<br />Silke<br /><br />http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00v1nhl<br /><i>In this programme Ernie Rea and his guests explore the history and place of Islam in America</i>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4008006782907969381.post-6791993248144879652010-10-05T20:06:24.772+02:002010-10-05T20:06:24.772+02:00What andre said is think is right , Does anybody e...What andre said is think is right , Does anybody else say it too ?mensajes clarohttp://tedateo.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4008006782907969381.post-6095009523444194422010-10-05T19:51:42.847+02:002010-10-05T19:51:42.847+02:00Those former Westeners, those German Islamists wer...Those former Westeners, those German Islamists were fighting against everything the Free World stands for.<br /><br />They got, what they were looking for.<br /><br />AndréAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com