tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4008006782907969381.post2485486385594028928..comments2024-01-01T01:47:59.449+02:00Comments on Yaacov Lozowick's Ruminations: Long-term Reflections on Jew HatredYaacovhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12835192312242961481noreply@blogger.comBlogger22125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4008006782907969381.post-21897620651058173052010-05-05T00:45:06.024+03:002010-05-05T00:45:06.024+03:00the Palestine Center has put up a post about Blogg...the Palestine Center has put up a post about Bloggers debating Mearsheimer and I just LOVE the photo they have chosen for him <br />- this look at the sky which characterizes the visionary and is so helpful in lifting the sagging chin of those beyond their prime - and Andrew Sullivan seems to get quite a kick out of contemplating Israel's dire destiny as envisioned by Mearsheimer<br />(why are civilians so into lusting for mayhem?)<br />Silke<br /><br /><br />http://www.palestinecenterblog.org/2010/05/bloggers-takes-on-mearsheimer-talk.htmlAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4008006782907969381.post-28666534517895718032010-05-04T16:32:17.501+03:002010-05-04T16:32:17.501+03:00It's a trend. If your are an obscure academic ...It's a trend. If your are an obscure academic in the humanities, starving for attention and promotion, just write an<br />"antizionist" (code word) tract and, lo and behold, you are a celebrity.Sergionoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4008006782907969381.post-28911148686648737622010-05-04T15:52:23.893+03:002010-05-04T15:52:23.893+03:00ooops - meant to say not only instead of only
scro...ooops - meant to say not only instead of only<br />scroll down to last picture and enjoy<br />SilkeAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4008006782907969381.post-81027714923062390712010-05-04T15:48:44.560+03:002010-05-04T15:48:44.560+03:00if Mearsheimer is German-American then his name in...if Mearsheimer is German-American then his name in German would most likely be Mersheimer and his first name Hans which makes only lovers of the Struwwelpeter book wish this story would come true<br />http://www.poetenweb.de/geschichten/struwwelpeter/hans.htm<br /><br />SilkeAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4008006782907969381.post-56415824041089799242010-05-04T15:38:02.339+03:002010-05-04T15:38:02.339+03:00Thanks Yaacov. It wasn't the name that struck ...Thanks Yaacov. It wasn't the name that struck me so much as he presumes to know a lot about Jews and Jewish culture. For some reason that seems a bit odd to me. He's rather obsessive and very presumptuous (to put it mildly) <br /><br />Cheers, Gavin.Gavinnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4008006782907969381.post-50960447401110287922010-05-04T15:24:20.962+03:002010-05-04T15:24:20.962+03:00Sort of sounds like it, huh? Jeffrey Goldberg made...Sort of sounds like it, huh? Jeffrey Goldberg made a joke about it the other day. But no, he isn't.Yaacovhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12835192312242961481noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4008006782907969381.post-90405137642509282862010-05-04T15:21:16.857+03:002010-05-04T15:21:16.857+03:00Forgive the dumb question, but... is Mearsheimer J...Forgive the dumb question, but... is Mearsheimer Jewish?Gavinnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4008006782907969381.post-53799921709658802632010-05-04T15:09:49.108+03:002010-05-04T15:09:49.108+03:00No Seraph Am I
you point to what I have been wonde...No Seraph Am I<br />you point to what I have been wondering about for some time i.e.<br />- how come South-Africans so willingly accept that they are from Carter's book on paraded around as poster-child for evil. <br />Shouldn't sinners who have mended their ways be entitled to something other than continued chastising?<br />Silke<br /><br />PS: <br />I dimly remember that Jesus said something like there was a lot of joy in heaven about a sinner who repented - as there are a lot of Christians involved in this round-about Afrikaaner bashing, maybe they should get a reminder here and there that they are sinning quite a bit themselves when peddling that argument.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4008006782907969381.post-80641552437100334422010-05-04T14:41:30.398+03:002010-05-04T14:41:30.398+03:00Amazing! As a forty-something South African Jew I ...Amazing! As a forty-something South African Jew I am appalled by this man, this "rooinek" (roy-neck; or red neck)<br /><br />According to his argument I am a Boerejood (boo-ra-juuhd, or Farmer-Jew) who keeps company with neo-Nazi Afrikaaners (many of whom are farmers) like the late Eugene Terreblanche, because:<br /><br />* I am pro-Israel;<br />* I support a two-state solution to the Israel/Arab conflict; and<br />* I hold liberal values...<br /><br />Oh, and my Leftie Jewish friends who reserve the right to criticize Israel are all "Righteous Jews".<br /><br />As a neo-Afrikaaner all I can say to this is; "Gaan kuk in die mielies" (Take a dump in the cornfields).<br /><br />Not only does he know nothing about Israeli politics and the State of Israel but he is willfully ignorant about South Africa, apartheid and the Afrikaans people.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4008006782907969381.post-28945077685347348602010-05-03T09:50:43.846+03:002010-05-03T09:50:43.846+03:00The realist speaks.
(And for those wondering if t...<a href="http://www.thejudeosphere.com/?p=1225" rel="nofollow">The realist speaks.</a><br /><br />(And for those wondering if the current US administration really wants to take advice from someone like this, the answer is, "Yes, absolutely".... And this rather interesting manifestation of "tough love" is, presumably good for the US---and everyone involved.)Barry Meislinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04795125774426217113noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4008006782907969381.post-74299652586657411782010-05-02T23:04:17.748+03:002010-05-02T23:04:17.748+03:00I completely agree. Living here in the US, at gro...I completely agree. Living here in the US, at ground-zero for leftie politics (San Francisco), I've been watching antisemitism grow in acceptability. <br /><br />First it was "just" demonization of Israel and intimidation of pro-Israel voices in street protests and on college campuses. This was soon followed by a complete lack of concern over anti-Jewish remarks, vandalism, and even attacks - as long as they were perpetrated by "pro-Palestinian" folks and not white supremacists. <br /><br />Then we started hearing - almost daily it seemed - about the "Jewish lobby," with the claim that Jews were driving us into wars and squashing dissent with their "excessive" influence in politics and the media. Suddenly the reality of antisemitism was dismissed, as academics & others claimed all such accusations were false and simply tools for suppressing speech. <br /><br />Now the accusations of dual loyalty are starting (there's a good summary here: http://cgis.jpost.com/Blogs/harris/entry/there_s_a_whiff_of). What's next? Discrimination in the workplace? I'm absolutely positive that pro-Israel academics find it harder to get hired into social science and humanities departments in American universities these days. And the media...? Maybe. <br /><br />Who would have thought we'd come to this, here in America? And so soon after World War II. I thought we'd have 100 years' peace, at least.<br /><br />LauraLaura Beck (Laura SF)noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4008006782907969381.post-68172239926285714022010-05-02T21:48:50.183+03:002010-05-02T21:48:50.183+03:00I never expected hatred of the Jews to disappear. ...I never expected hatred of the Jews to disappear. The Holocaust simply made it unfashionable to express it openly for awhile. Now this grace period has expired and John Mearsheimer's naked hatred of the Jews shows it flourishes even among highly educated people. The long hatred in human history will be with us for awhile yet.NormanFhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03365459073293643108noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4008006782907969381.post-42679274617499847242010-05-02T21:05:32.304+03:002010-05-02T21:05:32.304+03:00thanks Victor
that may be a possible explanation w...thanks Victor<br />that may be a possible explanation why Mearsheimer's lecture wasn't followed by a Q&A <br />- that happens extremely rarely in my extensive podcast lecture audio consumption and has probably never occurred in an event that lasted for more than 1 hour, albeit only by 3 minutes and 5 seconds. <br />SilkeAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4008006782907969381.post-80778370180312381122010-05-02T20:24:20.499+03:002010-05-02T20:24:20.499+03:00Forgot the link to Ibishblog. The man is well wort...Forgot the link to <a href="http://www.ibishblog.com/blog/hibish/2010/04/30/mearsheimers_unhelpful_unrealistic_and_disempowering_message_palestinains" rel="nofollow">Ibishblog</a>. The man is well worth following, crucial link that he is in the Obama-Fayaad axis, though reading him at times is like reading Pravda - there's truth between the lines.Avigdorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05008730229882004376noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4008006782907969381.post-26794646302118447002010-05-02T20:22:44.521+03:002010-05-02T20:22:44.521+03:00Hussein Ibish rips Mearsheimer a new one. Ibish is...Hussein Ibish rips Mearsheimer a new one. Ibish is evasive, as usual, about internal Palestinian discord, but even he can't hide his contempt for Mearsheirmer's lack of understanding. His final thoughts are that Mearsheimer is waging a war against "the Lobby", not for Palestinians.Avigdorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05008730229882004376noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4008006782907969381.post-43980710364572361152010-05-02T16:52:50.655+03:002010-05-02T16:52:50.655+03:00Yaacov,
Don't over-react, I have no criticism...Yaacov,<br /><br />Don't over-react, I have no criticism. I haven't read Mearsheimer and am happy to be educated by you. Your answer is helpful. Thank you for taking the time.<br /><br />Respectfully,<br /><br />DidiDidi Remezhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04879682323692415419noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4008006782907969381.post-47431009656368943392010-05-02T16:36:28.161+03:002010-05-02T16:36:28.161+03:00Didi
stop it!
anybody who ever read Mearsheimer si...Didi<br />stop it!<br />anybody who ever read Mearsheimer since his first Israel-Lobby-piece in the LRB or listened to any of his lectures or interviews unterstands that the man has a - to say it politely - extremely focused view of the world or as Sergio would say "Weltanschauung". <br />In short he has a theory and the world better fits his theory. If the world and Israel in particular continue to be as messy as life tends to be than they have to be corrected, anything that doesn't fit the theory has to go. Long live the theory, to hell with life, its contradictions and its demands.<br />SilkeAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4008006782907969381.post-3716523322579370782010-05-02T16:36:07.664+03:002010-05-02T16:36:07.664+03:00Didi,
The man has no Hebrew, no grasp of the hist...Didi,<br /><br />The man has no Hebrew, no grasp of the history of the Jews, of Israel, of the Palestinians or for that matter of antisemitsm. His sources are embarrassing: I was once rightfully failed at university for a paper which was far better sourced than his. He also doesn't doesn't know what he's talking about.<br /><br />He's a professor, for crying out loud, not a blogger. Professors are judged, even before the quality of their arguments, on their sources and methodology.<br /><br />You are free to post as many comments as you wish here, but if you expect me to respond to them you might try to concentrate on points of real interest or disagreement, not on wasting our time.Yaacovhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12835192312242961481noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4008006782907969381.post-21234301724049417122010-05-02T16:14:57.370+03:002010-05-02T16:14:57.370+03:00Yaacov,
Please clarify: "The man's lack ...Yaacov,<br /><br />Please clarify: "The man's lack of access to the subject of internal Israeli politics and how they play out."<br /><br />Thank you,<br /><br />DidiDidi Remezhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04879682323692415419noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4008006782907969381.post-84214379363497777302010-05-02T15:57:30.167+03:002010-05-02T15:57:30.167+03:00as to the fashionable "it must be allowed to ...as to the fashionable "it must be allowed to criticize Israel"*) my take is that citizens of states or areas which initiated it or participated enthusiastically in the holocaust should out of sheer basic politeness refrain from criticizing Israel - it is extremely bad manners as Emma's Mr. Knightley would have been the first to affirm <br />- if they have nothing good to say they should shut up - period. <br /><br />Government officials may be, very very may be though, exempted from that rule when the deal making shenanigans of great politics demand it - but as great politics go I personally would only trust that a politcian in my country is honestly acting in the best interest of my country's welfare, if he/she stands firmly at Israel's side. After all the the Mediterranean is not that far away from us.<br /><br />Silke<br /><br />*) Israel's friends follow it up with "but criticism must be fair" <br />- Israel's foes follow it up with "but if I do I will be persecuted" but to the best of my knowledge nobody has as yet tried to break into an Israel criticizer's home wielding an axe and a knife though the Jewish school in Berlin is guarded by automatic guns wielding personnel - which makes me blush with shame whenever something reminds me of it - with all the praise the world heaps on us for our reformation we haven't even been able to make a Jewish school a normality again.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4008006782907969381.post-51370388599350292612010-05-02T15:35:26.602+03:002010-05-02T15:35:26.602+03:00So which category of Jew are you?
You can find the...So which category of Jew are you?<br /><a href="http://cgis.jpost.com/Blogs/warpedmirror/entry/so_which_category_of_jew" rel="nofollow">You can find the answer here.</a>peterthehungariannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4008006782907969381.post-62878819856647478902010-05-02T15:08:19.760+03:002010-05-02T15:08:19.760+03:00Ah, but Yaacov, they'll only say that you'...Ah, but Yaacov, they'll only say that you're trying to scare them with charges of "anti-Semitism."<br /><br />And then they'll continue to sneer, "Predictably." <br /><br />And then they'll declare they're proud to be labeled "anti-Semitic" by the (predictable) likes of you.<br /><br />Such is the state of the world today....<br /><br />The Jews are in trouble, especially in Europe, but increasingly so in the US, where they've been so far, relatively protected.<br /><br />And Israel (along with her supporters---that is, those who support her right to exist even if/while they may be critical of or uneasy with certain policies) is in a difficult predicament, when the mushrooming global consensus is that it should either be destroyed or rendered vulnerable to destruction---all in the name of justice, ethics, and truth.<br /><br />Who else, therefore, might be "in trouble"?<br /><br />Question: Might there be any (particular) ramifications of rampant, global anti-Semitism, especially when such anti-Semitism is vigorously (even righteously) denied?<br /><br />Another question: Would the price of such (potential) ramifications be worth paying as long as the Jewish State were to be destroyed?Barry Meislinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04795125774426217113noreply@blogger.com