tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4008006782907969381.post7187226194405260723..comments2024-01-01T01:47:59.449+02:00Comments on Yaacov Lozowick's Ruminations: Settler Violence at YitzharYaacovhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12835192312242961481noreply@blogger.comBlogger61125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4008006782907969381.post-12751052781881077592010-05-02T15:25:52.827+03:002010-05-02T15:25:52.827+03:00Thanks Yaacov but that's ok. There was just so...Thanks Yaacov but that's ok. There was just something bugging me since Didi started posting and I've learnt to trust my instincts. He seemed too professional, single- minded and like a barrister trying to trap someone on points of law. I was just getting a bit protective & you can look after yourself ok.... I'll keep out of it.<br /><br />I hope you don't mind me saying but I get a bit concerned when you put yourself out there, I know how nasty this business is too. I enjoy the rambling voyage on Jewish culture too, don't understand half of it but it is interesting. <br /><br />Regards, GavinGavinnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4008006782907969381.post-72091596266129914452010-05-02T14:46:08.172+03:002010-05-02T14:46:08.172+03:00Didi
ooops - just remembered there was one inciden...Didi<br />ooops - just remembered there was one incidence where I'd "protested" against something Yaacov had written and he felt it necessary to "clarify" - if you want to label that as my having been contradicted, it would be OK with me.<br /><br />SilkeAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4008006782907969381.post-23872940456580942212010-05-02T14:32:11.963+03:002010-05-02T14:32:11.963+03:00Didi
I can't remember a single incidence where...Didi<br />I can't remember a single incidence where I have been contradicted by a follow-up comment by Yaacov <br /><br />on the other hand I remember lots and lors of comments by Yaacov and others where my view of matters was voiced a lot better than I could have ever done, where they elaborated, enhanced, changed direction etc. etc. and to boot all prefectly understandably to me without ever forcing me to use that old professional tool of mine "read slowly and aloud" which I have to resort to again and again if I want to even get a vague idea of what you are trying to say - which - come to think of it - reminds me a lot of how I felt when way way back our 68ers tried to explain to us why we were stupid to work for a living.<br /><br />Silke<br /><br />PS: is there anywhere a full list of words you consider flirtatious and which will insult your wife, if they show up in a comment thread in which you participate?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4008006782907969381.post-43004450115209424132010-05-02T13:23:15.042+03:002010-05-02T13:23:15.042+03:00Yaacov,
1. This point is very material to the iss...Yaacov,<br /><br />1. This point is very material to the issue you have raised here and elsewhere -- who can legitimately say what and where. Not taking a position on the issue may keep all your argumentative options open, but is unworthy of an honest intellectual.<br />2. So noted. However, I am interested in your thinking, not theirs. This is especially true, because commenters have more than once tried to answer for you, only to be contradicted by your response when it came.<br /><br />Respectfully,<br /><br />DidiDidi Remezhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04879682323692415419noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4008006782907969381.post-52266953395145446462010-05-02T13:12:19.688+03:002010-05-02T13:12:19.688+03:00"May", Didi, note the word "may&quo..."May", Didi, note the word "may". It could also have been "may not": I simply refused to get into that discussion. It's actually an important one, of course, but I wasn't in it and am not now, either.<br /><br />You also might note that serious folks such as Silke and Gavin are talking to you.Yaacovhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12835192312242961481noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4008006782907969381.post-63513335025396188722010-05-02T13:11:32.006+03:002010-05-02T13:11:32.006+03:00Silke,
Follow the hyperlinks, you'll find the...Silke,<br /><br />Follow the hyperlinks, you'll find them fully transparent.<br /><br />If you're going to engage in "distraction by association," you might want expand you're investigative endeavors to association not voluntarily provided by you targets. In this case, however, you'll find none.<br /><br />BTW -- Please stop using flirtatious language with me ("swooning", "rejection", "migraine", etc.) it demeans you and insults my wife.<br /><br />DidiDidi Remezhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04879682323692415419noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4008006782907969381.post-10341670105278215002010-05-02T13:05:53.833+03:002010-05-02T13:05:53.833+03:00Didi
who funds the outfits you list here???????
S...Didi<br /><br />who funds the outfits you list here???????<br />Silke<br /><br />http://www.benor.co.il/benor/team_member.asp?ID=2Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4008006782907969381.post-14411152750988720922010-05-02T12:27:48.043+03:002010-05-02T12:27:48.043+03:00Yaacov,
Here are your two quotes from above. If I...Yaacov,<br /><br />Here are your two quotes from above. If I have misinterpreted them, please clarify and attempt to substantially answer my questions.<br /><br />1. "I blog in English for two reasons. The first is as a very small contribution to strengthening Jewish awareness among American Jews, so it's an internal matter. Silke, Gavin, Christian Zionist and others are a free bonus."<br /><br />2. "I may actually disagree with you about the participation of non-Israeli Jews in our political discussion;" said in response to mine "I think that the diaspora has every business being engaged in Israeli affairs."<br /><br />Respectfully,<br /><br />DidiDidi Remezhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04879682323692415419noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4008006782907969381.post-58186062555739855292010-05-02T12:23:10.555+03:002010-05-02T12:23:10.555+03:00Didi is a bit of a tricky issue
- on the one hand...Didi is a bit of a tricky issue <br />- on the one hand I have learnt that not feeding the beast is usually good, on the other hand Didi parades his techniques to tell people to shut up Comandante-style in a way that makes me think he is quite proud of it and so there is a balloon of self-importance that needs to be punctured.<br /><br />As to funding: <br />why not demand they are public - certainly a mission statement like that of EED (German Protestant Church) would raise a lot of eye-brows if it were generally known and its full implications would have to be explained.<br /><br />But there's the problem - I've spent a bit of time on that website Gavin posted which includes Didi prominently. For none of the organisations I spent time on I could find donor lists like the one AKUS posted the other day.<br /><br />This outcome left me a bit frustrated because I find following the money trail so often not only satisfying but also enlightening.<br /><br />Silke<br /><br />PS: and thanks Gavin that's why I'm here also <br />- trying to find some idea, any idea how one can do anything against those heaps of stinking s...t which seem to grow everywhere - look at the poster by which Mearsheimer's lecture was announced.- I am told the flag is from a racist organisation of Boers which intentionally took its inspiration from the NS-flag, but Mearsheimer is no anti-semite, of course not, not he, he is a realist and <br /><br />note to Didi <br />- from afar that merges easily whether it is your intention or not <br />http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_0tkTIeDkTAg/S8HQrSQFlGI/AAAAAAAABjI/Hpz-uq2ligw/s1600/mearsheimer+for+websitesmall.jpgAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4008006782907969381.post-21866869287589015042010-05-02T11:47:58.241+03:002010-05-02T11:47:58.241+03:00Victor,
I didn't say what Didi says I said, n...Victor,<br /><br />I didn't say what Didi says I said, not here, not ever. So there's no reason to argue.Yaacovhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12835192312242961481noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4008006782907969381.post-72989790637903873212010-05-02T08:21:24.820+03:002010-05-02T08:21:24.820+03:00"The blanket refusal to allow the Diaspora a ..."The blanket refusal to allow the Diaspora a critical voice was shown to be shallow when the State Comptroller in Israel revealed for the first time in 1988 the sums which Diaspora philanthropists had given to political parties in the 1988 election. Forty nine gave at least $30,000 - of which twenty eight had supported the Labour Alignment. Moreover, the Likud had conducted a a fundraising campaign to collect close to $6 million from Diaspora sympathizers. This made a mockery of Diaspora non-interference in Israeli internal affairs."<br /><br />A History of Modern Israel, Colin Schindler, 2008.<br /><br />I'm almost done, and not impressed. On that point, however, is it common practice now, during the Israeli election cycle, or after it, to announce Diaspora contributions?<br /><br />One more point related to Didi's question. I'm not someone who sees everything as having a political dimension. Yaacov, you've written in the past that you do see most everything as being political in nature, unless I read or understood your point wrong.<br /><br />So, for me, raising funds for settlements in Yesha is not a political act. I'm not advocating support for any political party. I'm helping build homes and equipping kindergartens for fellow Jews, and doing so in a way that strengthens the security of "border towns", and thus the country, per halacha. For Didi, it clearly is a political act, because it strengthens the settlement movement, against his ideals.<br /><br />For me, watching money go to the New Israel Fund to educate Bedouins how to write a professional resume, or how to use a computer is not a political act, either. It strengthens the state, the national project of the Jewish people, so I approve. Probably Didi doesn't consider that a political act either. But someone who think that Jewish money should be spent on Jewish ailments first, like the tens of thousands of Israeli Jews living below the poverty line, might think its a political act.<br /><br />So, where do you draw that line?Avigdorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05008730229882004376noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4008006782907969381.post-48848125058556885172010-05-02T07:31:14.521+03:002010-05-02T07:31:14.521+03:00Yaacov,
You were very clear, but I asked you a di...Yaacov,<br /><br />You were very clear, but I asked you a different question: You stated that diaspora Jews should not take an active part in Israeli politics. If that is the case, isn't funding by them (and, adraba, Christian Zionists)of controversial political projects and organizations in Israel also not legitimate?<br /><br />DidiDidi Remezhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04879682323692415419noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4008006782907969381.post-63430628756990756362010-05-02T06:16:56.532+03:002010-05-02T06:16:56.532+03:00In my opinion, there is nothing worse than a Jew w...In my opinion, there is nothing worse than a Jew who runs to Europeans to help delegitimize Israel. Only a moron would rely on Europeans to "save the Jews from themselves." Do any Irishmen run to the Israeli gov't to get funds for running any radical anti-gov't groups?<br /><br />I am with Yaacov. Israel should ban all foreign gov't funding for NGO's across all ideological/political lines.Carrienoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4008006782907969381.post-11388482795996090122010-05-02T03:10:37.618+03:002010-05-02T03:10:37.618+03:00Not so fast Didi. The only reason I am here is bec...Not so fast Didi. The only reason I am here is because you and your kind invited me. You dragged my country, along with most of the world, into your fight against your own people. <br /><br />What I said was true Didi. Anti-semiticism is on the rise and getting to be of real concern, and its due to the media feeding the masses a regular diet of lies. A lot of those lies start with you people. Ihink about it mate. <br /><br />GavinGavinnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4008006782907969381.post-25548582812019241372010-05-01T21:39:35.197+03:002010-05-01T21:39:35.197+03:00Didi - I think I was reasonably clear: foreign gov...Didi - I think I was reasonably clear: foreign governments (and their agencies) investing in Israeli politics. I don't care which governments, nor which Israeli organizations with which politics.Yaacovhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12835192312242961481noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4008006782907969381.post-5262563153498954822010-05-01T21:27:15.450+03:002010-05-01T21:27:15.450+03:00Dear Didi,
Your free bonus was "Zionism is N...Dear Didi,<br /><br />Your free bonus was "Zionism is Nazism". Too bad Israel got this too and in a great measure thanks to you.mareknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4008006782907969381.post-5329593062293900842010-05-01T20:36:43.832+03:002010-05-01T20:36:43.832+03:00isn't that Didi guy marvellous?
I swoon for th...isn't that Didi guy marvellous?<br />I swoon for this unsurpassable master of the unfunny wise crack<br /><br />SilkeAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4008006782907969381.post-88471504709959001702010-05-01T20:12:42.808+03:002010-05-01T20:12:42.808+03:00My free bonus.My free bonus.Didi Remezhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04879682323692415419noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4008006782907969381.post-59225091023645504012010-05-01T19:46:20.855+03:002010-05-01T19:46:20.855+03:00Dear Didi,
You pass on your what?Dear Didi,<br /><br />You pass on your what?mareknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4008006782907969381.post-80613009365414365292010-05-01T18:18:41.675+03:002010-05-01T18:18:41.675+03:00Gavin,
As Yaacov so eloquently put it, you are a ...Gavin,<br /><br />As Yaacov so eloquently put it, you are a "free bonus". I'll pass on mine.<br /><br />DidiDidi Remezhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04879682323692415419noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4008006782907969381.post-90474009744478338552010-05-01T09:57:37.192+03:002010-05-01T09:57:37.192+03:00Didi. Is this you.....
http://www.benor.co.il/ben...Didi. Is this you.....<br /><br />http://www.benor.co.il/benor/team_member.asp?ID=2<br /><br />I don't know how long you've been reading Yaacovs ruminations but the strongest & most persistent thread in his blog is the subject of anti-semiticism. Yaacov is a Jew first & foremost, clearly a proud one and a wonderful ambassador for your country and your people. <br /><br />I doubt you're the type with enough honesty to ever admit or accept it, even privately, but the plain fact is the extremists on your left have woken the sleeping ogre. It slept for 50years after the Nazis were stilled, but it was only dormant. Now it's woken again, and feeding off every bad news report that comes out of Israel. I grew up reading about the pogroms & treatment of Jews, I never thought I'd see the day when the '30s of Nazi Germany were repeated. But they are repeating, you've recruited a vicious and malevolent enemy to your causes and they whip themselves into an ever greater Jew-hating frenzy with every new story that you feed them. They are not your friends. Take a good look at someone like Carter. He turned from a statesman into a visceral hater. It's like disease with some people, a cancer that eats away at them,. You can read bile & malevolence in his writing, the only good Jew to him is the dhimmi. <br /><br />Might I suggest you get out of your comfort zone for a while and try researching the anti-Jewsh sentiment that has been building up over the last decade. Anti-Zionism is just another name for anti-semiticism, Yaacov knows what he's talking about. It's not the causes you support that are the issue. It's the means you use to pursue them. <br /><br />GavinGavinnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4008006782907969381.post-53003125725575202372010-05-01T08:53:28.854+03:002010-05-01T08:53:28.854+03:00Aviram,
Yes. In fact, I commanded a combat compan...Aviram,<br /><br />Yes. In fact, I commanded a combat company in the West Bank at the time of the Goldstein massacre and made sure to clarify the authority.<br /><br />Induction is always a bad guide. In this case especially. If you skim through the rest of the report, you'll see that a section is devoted to the problem that commanders are not properly advised of their responsibilities and authorities on this issue.<br /><br />Best,<br /><br />DidiDidi Remezhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04879682323692415419noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4008006782907969381.post-85341417824963853852010-05-01T08:33:56.691+03:002010-05-01T08:33:56.691+03:00Yaacov,
"Distraction by association" is...Yaacov,<br /><br />"Distraction by association" is an easy game to play. If I was inclined to engage in it, I could probably pepper every argument I made with a supportive quote from one of your associates. The internet has made that very easy. I would also comment anonymously, making it impossible for you to do the same to me.<br /><br />I don't because: (a) I'm genuinely interested in questions arising from the posts I comment on; (b) I respect your willingness to engage with those you don't agree with and am not interested in baiting you; Also, I don't write anonymously because I believe in taking personal responsibility for one's statements.<br /><br />From the substantial part of your answer, I gather that the primary issue is not the fact of publication in English, but rather it's motivation -- catering to the needs of illegitimate funders. Although this argument is supported by unverifiable statements attributed to unnamed sources, I'll accept it, for the sake of the discussion, as fact.<br /><br />You also say that you don't think that non-Israeli Jews should be engaged in the Israeli political debate. Rich Jewish-Americans (not to mention Christian Zionists) fund political (and in many cases oppositional) projects and movements in Israel to the tune of hundreds of millions of dollars a year here. <br /><br />This issue is directly relevant to the subject of this post: The violence-promoting (fully documented) Od Yosef Hai Yeshiva in Yitzhar is one recipient of this generosity. <br /><br />If we can agree that funding is illegitimate as well, I believe we have found consensus and will gladly support a bi-partisan campaign to cease all foreign funding of controversial issues in Israel.<br /><br />Respectfully,<br /><br />DidiDidi Remezhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04879682323692415419noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4008006782907969381.post-57535152200484353722010-05-01T00:09:55.471+03:002010-05-01T00:09:55.471+03:00Had me fooled Yaacov, writing style led me to what...Had me fooled Yaacov, writing style led me to what looks to be a false assumption. I was wondering why the focus was solely on you, had a tactical feel to it. You've had some heavy hitters try their hand, what with the folks from NIF earlier, must be doing something right huh? <br /><br />Regards, Gavin.Gavinnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4008006782907969381.post-8120712317381714282010-04-30T19:45:47.152+03:002010-04-30T19:45:47.152+03:00Alex
I know I know you consider yourself to be an ...Alex<br />I know I know you consider yourself to be an activist but not deem it necessary to define what that is <br /><br />As to the Rules for Radicals - lets assume there is somebody who is impressed by the way you post and wants to read a bit more about it, I am sure he or she will be grateful to be reminded where he/she can find it.<br /><br />as you are the literary type and don't like Coelho I would recommend to you to read for guidance Jane Austen's Emma. Mr. Knightley may be a bit too much of everything but he might provide you with a lot of good ideas of how you can avoid to suggest to me again and again that Coelho must be a great influence on you<br /><br />SilkeAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com