tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4008006782907969381.post7374750386640147730..comments2024-01-01T01:47:59.449+02:00Comments on Yaacov Lozowick's Ruminations: Gender Separation on Public TransitYaacovhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12835192312242961481noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4008006782907969381.post-11055415895545195992011-05-29T16:08:33.847+03:002011-05-29T16:08:33.847+03:00It's the same on the Tehran Metro - women may ...It's the same on the Tehran Metro - women may choose any carriage they like, but men may not enter the female-only carriages.<br /><br />However, on Iranian trains, compartments can be mixed - there are no set rules. <br /><br />In shared-taxis, passengers generally shuffle around until there is no woman sat beside an unrelated male (I've also seen this happen on a Tel Aviv-Jerusalem sherut) - however, if this arrangement is not possible, they just get on with it. Same for inter-city buses.Conormelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02489271687547358203noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4008006782907969381.post-33000577194839833052011-05-29T14:26:15.145+03:002011-05-29T14:26:15.145+03:00The mehadrin buses don't force women to sit in...The mehadrin buses don't force women to sit in a specific area of the bus. My view is people should be allowed to sit where they want and there should never be compulsion involved.<br /><br />Haredi Jews should be free to live by their ideas of social modesty - as long as they don't impose them on others. As long as the situation prevails in their neighborhoods, I might not agree with it but in a democracy, they have the right to live as they wish.NormanFhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03365459073293643108noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4008006782907969381.post-33664778494717249372011-05-29T14:19:08.537+03:002011-05-29T14:19:08.537+03:00There are viable alternatives. Not only that, but ...There are viable alternatives. Not only that, but these lines exist only along routes that travel entirely within the Haredi areas. The rest of us don't generally use those lines. Still, their very existence on publicly-funded companies is a scandal. Only, it doesn't prove that Jim Crow is coming to Israel, merely that the Haredi community has some serious issues it needs to deal with, and the rest of us can't allow them to export the unacceptable parts to the public sphere. Which is why it has come before the Supreme Court.Yaacovhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12835192312242961481noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4008006782907969381.post-33032969354397925722011-05-29T14:05:28.659+03:002011-05-29T14:05:28.659+03:00Risa
Do you have to take these busses or are there...Risa<br />Do you have to take these busses or are there viable alternatives?Silkehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16383345395827271854noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4008006782907969381.post-49548281871225774622011-05-29T13:53:01.351+03:002011-05-29T13:53:01.351+03:00I believe that Tokyo also has cars in their subway...I believe that Tokyo also has cars in their subway system reserved for women, also because of crowding and harassment. There too they are not forced to stay there. <br />Here in Israel it's different. We have to sit in the back on these busses.Risa Tzoharhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05012097234847651866noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4008006782907969381.post-62845536624943724252011-05-29T13:40:17.806+03:002011-05-29T13:40:17.806+03:00I don't know what the current status is but I ...I don't know what the current status is but I remember that city car parking houses in Germany years and years ago first introduced women only areas close to the exit where it is well-lit and cries for help maybe heard by the attendant. <br /><br />I don't remember whether there was real concern that women alone after attending a theatre performance were in danger when going to their cars or whether it was done because we are the more fearful sex based on no solid reasons.Silkehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16383345395827271854noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4008006782907969381.post-36315703704102803372011-05-29T12:29:53.706+03:002011-05-29T12:29:53.706+03:00To clarify: women passengers are not forced to sit...To clarify: women passengers are not forced to sit in the women's cars on the Cairo Metro, they are free to sit on any part of the train. It is not uncommon to see female travelers in the "men's" cars - usually when accompanied with their families, but not always. I am not sure whether women's cars came to be because of the women's requests for harassment-free space, cultural/religious concerns, the old regime's concern for either, or some combination thereof. But women's cars were absolutely a creation of the Mubarak regime, not "the new Egypt". And by most women's accounts, sexual harassment in Egypt has lessened since the protests first began - though it still has a long way to go. <br /><br />Though, since the toppling of Mubarak, many people have reported hearing calls to prayer and Quran recitations on the Metro - neither were normal occurrences before January.<br /><br />And apparently, Cairo is not the only city whose subway has women-only cars: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women-only_passenger_carDukus Horantnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4008006782907969381.post-75619803216338026682011-05-29T12:13:01.709+03:002011-05-29T12:13:01.709+03:00they had womens compartments in bombays suburban t...they had womens compartments in bombays suburban trains several years ago, and boy, were they necessary. at least they offered some protection, while the affirmative action and education of men from a rather very patriarchal society took their (long) time. oh and yeah, i am a news junkie with a focus on israel, you're part of my morning newspaper coffee mug and most of the time put a smile on my face.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com