tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4008006782907969381.post2739210630128037849..comments2024-01-01T01:47:59.449+02:00Comments on Yaacov Lozowick's Ruminations: What Do American Jews Teach Their Children?Yaacovhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12835192312242961481noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4008006782907969381.post-83070090015266322592009-10-25T19:27:16.452+02:002009-10-25T19:27:16.452+02:00Americans generally have a much more positive view...Americans generally have a much more positive view of WWII, a view in which the US saved everyone. That put a lot of constraints on the stories American Jews could tell. (I'd recommend <a href="http://www.syracuseuniversitypress.syr.edu/2001/holocaust-american.html" rel="nofollow">Judith E. Doneson</a>, although I don't know if another book might be better.) That's why Anne Frank, and a deracinated Anne Frank at that. See, especially, Judgment at Nuremberg. No Jewish characters, it's about how Americans established justice following the Holocaust. I'd suppose the Orthodox might be more willing to stand out as different, and less influenced by the dominant American view.Matthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05146833770654841724noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4008006782907969381.post-25623839755355412052009-10-25T06:12:01.018+02:002009-10-25T06:12:01.018+02:00Jack, how long ago did you attend the Ramah camps?...Jack, how long ago did you attend the Ramah camps?<br /><br />I too went to Ramah (Wisconsin), a long time ago, and it was as you describe. In fact, it led me to become Shomer Shabbos, and eventually, drift to Orthodoxy. <br /><br />I think now, however, that Ramah is not quite the same. I don't mean to disparage it, and I think it still has many positives to it, but if Ramah reflects the Conservative Movement, which it does to a great extent...this is what the Conservative movement is now more concerned with; most of the same "social justice" shibboleths of modern liberalism, and not that much different from the Reform movement. <br /><br />That doesn't mean they don't worry about kashrus or Shabbos and religious observance. But if this study is to be believed, then there is more emphasis on other things and less on religious observance.Monoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4008006782907969381.post-7874639514130870092009-10-22T16:05:35.012+02:002009-10-22T16:05:35.012+02:00You say "It's like comparing a continent ...You say "It's like comparing a continent with a beautiful statue on it." It could also be a choice (conscious or otherwise) to view oneself as more than a victim -- one who finds a way to fight against oppression.Jim from Connecticutnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4008006782907969381.post-63193755978506416672009-10-21T22:19:41.978+02:002009-10-21T22:19:41.978+02:00Interesting. I spent about 20 years or so working ...Interesting. I spent about 20 years or so working or attending Camp Ramah in California and Canada.<br /><br />It is ostensibly Conservative but it had a big mix of kids who were Reform or unaffiliated as well as a bunch who were M.O.<br /><br />We davened daily, kept Kosher and were Shomer Shabbos. I have a millions memories from my time there, but I don't remember much education about democracy/equality.<br /><br />It always seemed to me to be a Jewish camp first and foremost.Jack Steinerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16625864271071630940noreply@blogger.com