tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4008006782907969381.post8142017685691442222..comments2024-01-01T01:47:59.449+02:00Comments on Yaacov Lozowick's Ruminations: The Damage the Peace Process WroughtYaacovhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12835192312242961481noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4008006782907969381.post-78972225944092487562010-08-08T22:01:34.701+03:002010-08-08T22:01:34.701+03:00...the victory of hope over experience....
By Jov...<i>...the victory of hope over experience....</i><br /><br />By Jove, that's it! <br /><br />Israel is perenially...in love.<br /><br />(With the IDEA of peace?)<br /><br />And her love is playing---shall we say---"hard to get?"<br /><br />And so she tries harder and harder, and gets more and more frustrated and blames herself and blames her love and blames herself and blames her parents until, until, until....<br /><br />(This is beginning to sound like a really sordid, godawful romance....)<br /><br />....until she talks herself to a very loud (if not very proud) desperate, despondent depression. (The author obviously adores alliteration...)<br /><br />In the sequel, she decides to forego love altogether and join a bizarre Hassidic sect....where she meets....Barry Meislinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04795125774426217113noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4008006782907969381.post-28461996321588067482010-08-08T17:47:59.437+03:002010-08-08T17:47:59.437+03:00Barry
in this context I "liked" Peres de...Barry<br />in this context I "liked" Peres description in his long recent interview on how he got "through" to Arafat, i.e. the desire to win even a wee bit in the contest blinds one to the other's incorrectibility or in a kinder view the victory of hope over experience.<br /><br />When I read Peres description it reminded me very strongly of all the sound minded and knowledgeable people I have come across in the past months who try to reason it out with the "anti-Zios", and sadly enough it doesn't make any difference whether one stays polite or insults them. <br />But still one has to try something in the hope that one may find a crack in which one can drive a wedge that makes them at least shut up. <br />But that I think is the best one can hope for. <br />Arafat and his equally tuned may lap up getting honoured but their giving something in return doesn't mean that he will not retract it. He'll find a pretext no matter how many honours are bestowed on him.<br />(at least that is how smart whiners behave in office feuds)<br /><br />SilkeAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4008006782907969381.post-88586462804811534272010-08-08T16:10:29.434+03:002010-08-08T16:10:29.434+03:00...unintended consequences...
Well, it does sound...<i>...unintended consequences...</i><br /><br />Well, it does sound good, certainly; but I'm not so sure that this is the case.<br /><br />The question is: Unintended by whom?<br /><br />Arafat, in his stated (in Arabic) policy of incremental conquest of the Zionist Entity, was quite clear of his strategy and the goals. <br /><br />Brilliant man that he was.<br /><br />(Let's wax a bit nostalgiac, shall we?: "Arafat: unwilling or unable to make peace".... Heh!)<br /><br />And Abbas (clever albeit perhaps less imaginative apparatchik that he is) is nothing less than a better looking version of his master's voice.<br /><br />(And there goes that familiar refrain: "Abbas: unwilling or unable to make peace".... Heh! Heh!!)<br /><br />....On the other hand, if by "unintended" you mean, oh, say, Peres, Beilin, Rabin, Clinton, etc., including most Israelis, including yourself (dare I assume), then yes, "unintended consequences" sounds about right.<br /><br />(Of course, "Haaretz" has the gall to ridicule people such as Benny Begin...., but then "Haaretz" cannot help itself, poor, poor publication....)Barry Meislinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04795125774426217113noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4008006782907969381.post-65827438601565939032010-08-08T15:55:49.698+03:002010-08-08T15:55:49.698+03:00I remember the thousands of Arabs that used to pou...I remember the thousands of Arabs that used to pour into Israel every day from Gaza along the Gaza- Ashkelon road, returning in the evening, earning what was a good wage for the cost of living in Gaza. But there were terrorists even then in Gaza - however, like on the WB today, Israel was able to keep them under control through a combination of working with the locals and employing relatively low levels of force. I used to travel to Jerusalem along the Jordan Valley road, usually stopping for a meal and coffee in Jericho.<br /><br />Outside meddling by the US, EU and others has a lot to answer for.AKUSnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4008006782907969381.post-42202695593668612282010-08-08T09:24:54.501+03:002010-08-08T09:24:54.501+03:00The Arabs brought it upon themselves. They can ste...The Arabs brought it upon themselves. They can stew in their own hate. Israel should not live a finger for them. If they ever regain their sanity, one day there may be peace.<br /><br />There is nothing to get worked up about the Arabs today.NormanFhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03365459073293643108noreply@blogger.com