tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4008006782907969381.post9144694420018902235..comments2024-01-01T01:47:59.449+02:00Comments on Yaacov Lozowick's Ruminations: It's Nice to be Safe and PowerfulYaacovhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12835192312242961481noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4008006782907969381.post-43226619098793171532011-03-25T19:23:07.197+02:002011-03-25T19:23:07.197+02:00Barry
you blew it, that was one of the most accura...Barry<br />you blew it, that was one of the most accurate Freudian slips ever<br /><br />and on top of being a victim, I think JPost has a piece today how they are doing so much better than any of their not oil-rich co-Arabs including in education. <br /><br />They aren't stupid enough to imagine that their getting pampered in any imaginable way is going to continue once they stop peddling the noble savage freedom fighter image. There are lots of images but the biggest romance is always in slandered underdog overcomes impossible odds. Come to think of it, if we'd start singing their praise far and wide, maybe that would dim the gloss a bit.<br /><br />gere's a perfect example of what we feed our children with from a very very early age.<br /><br />http://www.andersen.sdu.dk/vaerk/hersholt/TheUglyDuckling_e.htmlSilkehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16383345395827271854noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4008006782907969381.post-40104317959741227812011-03-25T16:22:12.579+02:002011-03-25T16:22:12.579+02:00Should be: "...and must NOT be allowed to die...Should be: "...and must NOT be allowed to die...."Barry Meislinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04795125774426217113noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4008006782907969381.post-58109622390762265782011-03-25T16:20:52.488+02:002011-03-25T16:20:52.488+02:00Indeed.
This is precisely why the Palestinians wi...Indeed.<br /><br />This is precisely why the Palestinians will absolutely not accept a state, no matter how much they claim they want one.<br /><br />Why should they give up their underdog status? Why should they give up their "David" status?<br /><br />Being in this "oppressed" state and insisting on its continuance is precisely why they can continue to aim for Israel's destruction---and be understood for aiming for it; why they can continue to shoot rockets and missiles into Israel; why they can continue to blow up Israelis (and tourists, alas); why they can continue to demand and demand and demand without offering anything in return.<br /><br />They are oppressed. Victim par excellent. And that's exactly the way they want it.<br /><br />Certainly, it is an absurd travesty; but why should they give up this victimhood which is so useful for their purposes, so necessary to achieve their goal?<br /><br />Their so-=called oppression is their trump card. Their purported suffering is the ace up their sleeve. It is the reason why they can do absolutely anything and say anything and be held responsible for absolutely nothing.<br /><br />And they should give this up?<br /><br />To help Israel?<br /><br />(Ah, "to help themselves," some might opine; but in this matter, "helping themselves" means bringing about Israel's destruction. Full stop.)<br /><br />Their oppression is the reason why the world has come around to not only believing their "narrative" but to agree with their view---their goal---that the State of Israel disappear.<br /><br />And yet, as Gates (the American Secretary of Defense) has just said (amidst the missile raining down on Israel), the peace process and is of the highest importance and must be continued and must be allowed to die, yadda, yadda, yadda.<br /><br />To which Abbas can only whole-heartedly agree.<br /><br />But of course.Barry Meislinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04795125774426217113noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4008006782907969381.post-84718881488860064932011-03-25T13:16:11.593+02:002011-03-25T13:16:11.593+02:00Y.
in my teens (I was born in 1942) Israel wasn&#...Y.<br /><br />in my teens (I was born in 1942) Israel wasn't presented as victim to me. They were, perhaps overly romanticized, presented as the bright and very desirable future - making the desert bloom, living in kibbutzes all that stuff. Very very alluring to my young mind, so uncynical, so very very refreshing. <br /><br />As best I can tell my world is enamoured by the David vs Goliath myth. Only David winning against Goliath makes the headlines and it always promising a wonderful hearts and minds story it permeates/dominates/tinges all "narratives" including soccer and afternoon TV-soaps, it is always the unlikely hero coming through against all odds. It is always the orphan who gets the prince. <br /><br />I don't know how we can damp down that one which now I think has become a vital component in the demonisation of Israel without giving up our adoration of free competition. <br /><br />But we must come up with a retelling of the David-narrative if we want to make people take notice of Sylvia's composed sounding info that a rocket has just landed 20 m away and that she doesn't have yet a shelter, mentioning that as an aside in a way as if she were talking about new garden equipment.<br /><br />We must find a way to get that horrifying beyond belief narrative across. As a child bombed to smithereens buildings provided us with gorgeous play-grounds (they were off-limits but we went in anyway) and I understood the full horror of it only as an adult. It is "they" who initiate that horror again and again and thus it is "them" that must be stopped.<br /><br />Final question: in which novel that made it into the popular realm was the hero or heroine not given some kind of underdog quality? It is time to come up with one, where a force for the good is not forced to become even better but to win the game without caveats.Silkehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16383345395827271854noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4008006782907969381.post-76884416112467184252011-03-25T07:51:40.823+02:002011-03-25T07:51:40.823+02:00NormanF-
It is important for you to understand tha...NormanF-<br />It is important for you to understand that the ruling clique that controlled the Jewish Yishuv from the beginning of the British Mandate of Palestine and set the imprint on Israeli governmental behavior and thinking down to the present day, regardless of what party is in power, were people heavily influenced by Marxism. Thus, the number one foreign policy goal of these people (and like I said, the Likud has been forced into this pattern of thinking although they started out anti-Marxist and anti-socialist) was to get the European liberal and Marxist Left to love Israel. And how do you do this...by being a VICTIM. Now, you and I know that the best way to get a world tinged with antisemitism to respect Jews if not like them is to be STRONG. This was the situation after the Six-Day War. Also the Entebbe Raid raised respect for Jews. But, in the wake of Oslo, in which the government itself starts saying that the Palestinians are right and they we are oppressing them (even Sharon ended up saying this), then we see a major outburst of antisemitism.<br />This sickness of grovelling to the international Left was already apparent in what Levi Eshkol said after the Six Day War...he said "we now have to convince the world that we are Samson the nebbisher". In other words even though we are strong, we still have to somehow come across as victims and wretches.<br />A good example of this sick Leftist Jewish mentality was stated by Jeremy Ben-Ami, head of the anti-Israel J-Street organization. Netanyahu refused to meet him but he did meet, at the same time, Sarah Palin. Ben-Ami asked "why is Netanyahu wasting his time talking to her and not me who represents 170,000 (I don't believe that number, but that's what he claims). In other words, for the Jewish liberal/left and for non-Jews as well in American, Sarah Palin is a non-entity...she doesn't count BECAUSE SHE IS A CONSERVATIVE. Even though tens of millions of American support her. Far more people support her than J-Street, but here we see this classical arrogance of the liberal/Progressive/Left who delegitimize and dismiss their political opponents and this is why the Israeli Leftist leadership became so focussed on appeasing the international progressive/liberal/Left.Y. Ben-Davidnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4008006782907969381.post-85559508757792213662011-03-24T21:30:22.270+02:002011-03-24T21:30:22.270+02:00The problem is Israel is too restrained.
The Russ...The problem is Israel is too restrained.<br /><br />The Russians would have razed Gaza already.<br /><br />What Israel is doing is beyond stupid.<br /><br />The best way to ensure a full scale war is NOT to respond with overwhelming force to the slightest Palestinian terror attacks.<br /><br />One has the impression Israel's government is more concerned with pleasing world opinion than with protecting the lives of its citizens.<br /><br />When you are under attack, you don't pull back your punches. You hit hard.<br /><br />If Israel doesn't do that soon, all the deterrent value of Operation Cast Lead will dissipate.NormanFhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03365459073293643108noreply@blogger.com